Career Technology Center teachers' strike focuses on fair pay


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Those who teach carpentry, plumbing and culinary arts want to earn as much as those who teach English, math and biology.

Teachers from the Career Technology Center of Lackawanna County took that message to picket lines on Thursday, as their 700 students stayed in their home schools and worked on extra math problems or studied.

On the first full day of the strike, teachers picketed at Valley View, outside the Scranton School District administration building and along North Main Avenue near the tech center.

"We're real teachers," union President Yolanda Martinelli shouted outside the Scranton administration building on North Washington Avenue, adding: "Real pay!"

Pay is the main stumbling block in the failed contract negotiations, as teachers cite making less than the teachers from high schools that send students to the center. The school's 36 teachers have been working without a contract since September 2008.

The starting salary at the center is $29,300 - less than the starting salaries for all Lackawanna County school districts. The average salary at the center is $41,744, also less than county districts and nearby vo-tech schools, according to 2007-08 state Department of Education data, the latest available.

Offers include:

- From the center, a 3.5 percent raise across all salary steps for each year of a five-year contract, plus health insurance, including cost increases, paid in full.

- From the union, along with full health insurance, an 8 percent increase for each year of the five-year contract, which teachers say would bring them in line with surrounding districts. Several superintendents said the union had made an offer on Monday night with a lower percentage, but union organizers did not confirm that.

Along the picket line Thursday, teachers - along with adult students - expressed frustration that an agreement had not been reached.

Adult students in the Career Technology Center's licensed practical nursing program, wearing their white uniforms, held signs like "One less day in class, one less life saved in my career."

The students, who said they pay about $10,000 in tuition, had been scheduled for clinical rotations at area hospitals on Thursday, but with a unionized teacher, were out on the picket line instead.

"We're on hold. Some people quit their jobs, have no health insurance," Laurie Krause of Archbald said.

Other adult courses taught by unionized faculty members have been canceled as well.

Also Thursday, the center temporarily laid off seven instructional aides.

"There aren't any students here. Obviously, there's no work for you," center administrative director Vincent Nallo said he told the employees. Mr. Nallo added that they can file for unemployment benefits.

Teachers say they are willing to continue the strike - and lose paydays - for as long as necessary.

"We're going to stay out until they come to us with something," Ms. Martinelli said. "They don't respect us."

When teachers from a school district strike, they must end the work stoppage in time for 180 days of school to be completed by June 30. But because center students will be fulfilling the 180-day requirement at their home districts, there is no limit to how long the teachers can strike.

Center teachers will also be losing a day of pay for each day they are out because they will not make up those days later.

The 700 students at the center, who come from more than a dozen school districts, spend half the day at the center learning trades such as childcare or collision repair, and the rest of the day at their high schools for core academic classes. Districts pay the center based on how many students attend the school.

Area superintendents and members of school boards, who have expressed frustration about not knowing negotiation details, will meet this afternoon at the center. Each of the nine districts in the consortium - Carbondale Area, Dunmore, Forest City Regional, Lakeland, Mid Valley, North Pocono, Riverside, Scranton and Valley View - have one board member on the center's joint operating committee. The committee has the authority to approve a teachers contract.

"We don't have time to sit around and wait for something to happen. We have to make something happen," Scranton Superintendent William King said.

Contact the writer: shofius@timesshamrock.com







42 posted comments

Sounds like the FBI needs to go up to Lackawanna county too.
pa 11/02/09 10:02
Dear KS LPN, no of course I would not want to be cared for by a poorly trained nurse working in a poorly equipped setting. Ditto for the doctors, clearly not every one is graduating at the top of their class. I have no desire to be operated on by the doctor who finished in the middle of his class. Also, congrats on your career change. I do adjunct work in a business curriculum, both for undergrads and graduate students. Most of my students have grown or nearly grown children and at least one career under their belt. They tend to be much better students and just plain curious about what is going on around them, and are much more engaged than their recently out of high school peers. Good luck to you and start looking into RN programs, or maybe a PA program. A dear friend has a BSN from a well known, but not a fancy school and is earning a comfortable income and then some.
Tom 11/01/09 11:25
CTC Grad and Proud, thanks for your concern. I tend to repair most of my own items that need to be repaired. I am a pretty plan guy and I am not sure I'd dine somewhere deserving of a culinary degree. But, again, I do appreciate your concern. My point was and still is that the labor market will even out and wages will in turn match the skills the people have. Since you have opted to define me as richly white collar, lets go with that. It also seems that you opted to define yourself as blue collar. I will only pay you want I think your skill set is worth. It really does not matter if you are a plumber, a cook, electrician, et cetra. Your skills, and mine, are only worth what someone else will pay for them. And also judging by the tone of your comment, one in which you opted to attack me, but not my position you call me "ignorent". First, it is spelled wrong; second, it is the wrong word usage. I am keenly aware of the economics involved. I am not sure if your teachers from CTC would be as proud of your argument and word usage as you appear to be.
Tom 11/01/09 11:15
Dear Tom, thank you for your comment and I appreciate your perspective. I agree, there are many with Master's Degrees but they all don't belong teaching children or adults. It takes a very special person to be a teacher and they need to love what they do and truly care to educate their class. I have children and was a child myself and many of the teachers should not have been in the classroom, Master's or not. My point simply is that we all love these teachers and they are committed to us. We do not want just anyone with a Master's teaching us. I am an adult, changing careers, and feel that my teachers deserve a contract and the increase they are asking for. In all honesty, would you want to be cared for by a nurse who was not top notch? I know I certainly would not. Nurses are your 24/7 caregiver and the line to your Physician. Would you want just anyone with a Master's Degree who didn't really care about whether we learn proper technique or not ultimately graduating us without us being the best? Thank you for your comment and for not attacking me as well. KS
KS LPN Student 10/31/09 04:24
This comment is addressed to tom's comment about the loss of industry in NEPA, Tom, who does your plumbing? who does your electrical work? who fixes your car? Look at the programs CTC offers! Electrical, Plumbing,Machine Shop,Auto Body, Auto Mechanics,Grapic Arts,Culinary Arts,Carpentry,and more!! You sound ignorent To the fact CTC trains many students for many occupations,these are vital programs offered by many technical colleges with a hefty tuition, Sounds like your a white collar worker!!
CTC Grad and Proud 10/31/09 03:54
Dear Tom, thank you for your comment and I appreciate your perspective. I agree, there are many with Master's Degrees but they all don't belong teaching children or adults. It takes a very special person to be a teacher and they need to love what they do and truly care to educate their class. I have children and was a child myself and many of the teachers should not have been in the classroom, Master's or not. My point simply is that we all love these teachers and they are committed to us. We do not want just anyone with a Master's teaching us. I am an adult, changing careers, and feel that my teachers deserve a contract and the increase they are asking for. In all honesty, would you want to be cared for by a nurse who was not top notch? I know I certainly would not. Nurses are your 24/7 caregiver and the line to your Physician. Would you want just anyone with a Master's Degree who didn't really care about whether we learn proper technique or not ultimately graduating us without us being the best? Thank you for your comment and for not attacking me as well. KS
KS LPN Student 10/31/09 08:34
We're real teachers,,,,,Really I paid $85,000 for my daughter to be a real teacher, look aroud are you sure your all REAL TEACHERS.
Rick 10/31/09 07:03
"Rumor has it . . ." You said it all; I did not even have to. Thanks "former advisor".
Tom 10/30/09 11:34
Did Nallo earn the title of Doctor? If not, those true professionals that have earned that title, must be embarrassed when they have to lower their mentality to his level, and speak slowly so he can get it all in, and then have him twist the conversation to meet his needs. JOC and school districts, find out where your money has gone since he has been on his self appointed throne!
Buster Himan 10/30/09 10:58
i think these teachers should be getting paid more.i would have never gotton where i am today with out my teacher at ctc.all those teachers try to hard and will do above and beyond for us and you people think they do just as much.they dont they should get paid more just like the other tech centers
08 grad 10/30/09 10:06
NG, there is nothing wrong with qualified works being employed elsewhere. That will correct and rebalance the labor market. Then other organizations will have to raise their compensation packages. That's how it works.
Tom 10/30/09 09:15
In response to "The Devil" and "Tom", and to answer "angry taxpayer": Rumor has it that the Heavy Equipment/Diesel program is closed because the previous two instructors left because of the low salary. The ignorance of "The Devil" and "Tom" shows clearly, NOBODY from the industry/business world would be willingly to leave their industry pay to be insulted with CTC's "starting pay". As it now stands, as "Concerned Parent" has found out, CTC administration is not willing to pay for the best to instruct students interested in that particular trade, but take any person who can fog up a mirror and put them in that classroom, qualified or not. I suggest that "Devil" and "Tom" apply for the next opening and see how long they last.
former industry advisory member 10/30/09 09:12
Dear KS LPN, no I am not kidding. I too have a master's degree, while I worked for it and it did not come easy, it is not impossible to achieve one. You see, not many people get them because they either stop at undergrad or go on to a doctorate or a professional degree. Does it make me more marketable, sure, depends what the place I am applying to is looking for. Does it some times limit where I can work? Yes, sure does. Do I expect a higher wage than someone who does not have one? Sure if I deserve it and the market supports it. Should everyone who was a master's degree make more? No, education does not mean results. Have I ever heard of a graduate level education in a trade, no? Have you? While I understand your frustration in not being able to find a way to attack a valid point, it is saddening that instead you attack the messegers and not the message. You write well, you convey your opinions clearly, but your arguement is about a weak as it can be. Fire the teachers, sure. You know what, Pennsylvania, and all states are employment at will states.
Tom 10/30/09 09:11
I belong to Elk View Country Club, and I can't take their backho to my house to do work
Golfer 10/30/09 08:35
Let those of you whom are bashing the CTC educational professionals, spend a week in the instructor's trade/technical area of expertise classroom; then you will understand why the instructors are required to meet the high standards of the PDE, and to realize the education and training that is necessary, for the CTC instructors, to educate your students and prepare them for their chosen technical field of study.
John M 10/30/09 08:26
That pay scale does not show how underpaid you are it shows how overpaid al of the other teachers are.
Against Unions 10/30/09 07:31
KS IS RIGHT IM A STUDENT AT CTC THE TEACHERS ARE THE BEST . THEY DESERVE AT LEAST EQUAL PAY IF NOT MORE .
JASTUDENTCTC 10/30/09 07:01
they should all just go back to work and end the strike! people would love to have any kind of job right now and here they are striking because they dont make enough. Yes they should be treated and paid like real teachers but just be happy you got a job for now.
.... 10/30/09 05:34
Not that there is anything wrong with selling shoes, sorry if anyone got offended - my point was that they deserve a salary based on their college degrees.
KS LPN Student 10/30/09 04:47
Exactly...to the post about the 3.5% increase. these teachers were offered an average of 3.5% increase over the life of the contract. what a joke. Maybe Mr. Vincent "hot shot" Nallo can give some of his salary and his wifes salary to the teachers who deserve it. Boy I wish I could drink coffee all day long and get paid over 100K...
Joseph C. 10/30/09 04:41
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